Posts by Anony Mous

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WAR begins.

by lastmanstanding in

things are moving right along.

“israel” has gone to war with iran.. who is fooled?.

this is uncle sam, same as in ukraine.. daniel layed out clearly the events of “d day” june 6, 1944 as the “ships of kittim” would sail against the king of the north.

“Illegally” I do not think you know what that means. Trump announced what he was going to do. He did it despite plenty people here in this thread predicting he would not, he ended the nuclear threat, despite plenty of people here in this thread making prophecies about how Iran would prevail as some biblical beast that opposes the West.

However even before the US ended the Iranian ayatollah’s regional reign, Europe was already starting discussions about a post-theocratic Iran. The last 48 hours, Iran’s political structure is collapsing, women are now openly, in the streets of Tehran, not wearing their hijab and cutting their hair short. Tomorrow multiple nations will start officially discussing the transition and potential future with the government-in-exile of Iran.

Now that the smoke has cleared and the sun has risen, the mountain where their nuclear program was hidden is no more. Like you can see it from space that the thing is gone.

And you know this all started, not with Trump, not with Biden, not with Obama or Bush. This started with Jimmy Carter, who let the current regime in Iran take over and run roughshod over the US, because he didn’t like that he would have to threaten someone. They don’t play in the structure of communist idealism like the Democrats in the west are permitted to do. People don’t think “like us” they don’t care about their lives or their children “like us”, this has been true of virtually every other non-Western culture, multi-culturalism does not exist, they don’t believe in the sanctity of life or the individual.

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The Coming Global Salvation - (Not Universalism)

by Sea Breeze in

the overwhelming majority of the early church leaders (fathers) were premillennial and believed in a literal 1000 yr. kingdom.

today, 2/3 of christians are amillennial.

i do not want to imply that amilennialists, are not christian.

Anony Mous

@SB: there are various legends around the year 1000AD of mass conversions and subsequent “great disappointments”. The pope himself performed on New Year’s eve 999AD midnight mass in silence, supposedly several in the crowd died of fright as the bells struck at midnight. Written history in that period of the dark ages however is highly unreliable.

My personal favorites are 1666AD (Great London Fire and start of the plague), again, many believed in those portents. Or Christopher Columbus who supposedly convinced the Spanish crown to continue financing expeditions of what he thought was the West Indies by playing on their expectations of the supposed end of the millennium and a final crusade to Jerusalem through what we now know as South America.

Again, history is rife with starts and ends of the supposed millenniums, counting from or to various starts and ends. The question is why your counting is accurate and not the literal thousands of others.

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The Coming Global Salvation - (Not Universalism)

by Sea Breeze in

the overwhelming majority of the early church leaders (fathers) were premillennial and believed in a literal 1000 yr. kingdom.

today, 2/3 of christians are amillennial.

i do not want to imply that amilennialists, are not christian.

Anony Mous

So I’m assuming the first millennialists were pretty miffed about 1025 years ago. What makes you think that somehow ‘today’ is special enough to begin counting another 1000 years.

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Trump: "Too many holidays"

by SydBarrett in

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“too many non-working holidays in america.

it is costing our country $billions of dollars to keep all of these businesses closed,” the president wrote in a truth social post..

“the workers don’t want it either,” he added.

Anony Mous

Lowest income states, adjusted for cost of living: Hawaii, New York, California, New Mexico etc

Highest income states, adjusted for cost of living: North Dakota, Kansas, Oklahoma etc

The difference between Kansas and New York is nearly 30%, in Kansas’ favor, so the average US $100 is worth $116 in Kansas and $87 in New York.

The number of people that would get a wage hike if their minimum wage is adjusted is only 1.1% of the population (so not very many people), however, in Kansas this is less than 1%, in NY this stands now at ~16% according to its own data. As a result of the NYS wage hike, there was over 20% (from 4% to 24%) of reduction in employment amongst 19-26yo.

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Few JW leader have children

by slimboyfat in

it’s been discussed before that few jw leaders, past and present, have had children.

this is in contrast with other groups, such as the mormons, whose leaders have had a lot of children.

i wonder if this has impacted jw growth.

Anony Mous

Morris has 2 children - https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/w20150515/remembering-first-love-for-jehovah/ - but they were not disfellowshipped as ChatGPT claims. At the time of Morris' removal, they both had high ranking 'jobs' (one was the US branch overseer or something like that) at WTBTS, so there was some speculation back then, right now both of them seem to still officially live at a WTBTS address.

Not sure what happened to them since, I would assume the WTBTS doesn't want to 'shake' that tree too much.

David H. Splane doesn't have any kids. It's pretty easy to find out - Born in 1944, started pioneering in September 1963 (20yo). A graduate of the 42nd class of Gilead (1966, 22yo), he served as a missionary in Senegal, Africa (1966-?), then for 19 years in the circuit work in Canada (?-1990). Then he has been at Bethel. So none of those positions would've allowed for 'children'.

The rest you can find similar reference, they self-publicize enough self-aggrandizing life stories. Even the lesser known ones, eg Jacob Rumph, The 132nd class of Gilead means 2012 he was between 21-40 years old, at least 2 years married, and had no children at that point, by 2023 he was a GB member, that's only 10 years, so he can't have raised children even if he 'dropped out' after graduating at that point.

Now, whether some of them have some 'illegitimate' children could be an issue of contention, but I'm fairly sure they 'screen' for some of those 'undesired' attributes.

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Trump: "Too many holidays"

by SydBarrett in

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friends

“too many non-working holidays in america.

it is costing our country $billions of dollars to keep all of these businesses closed,” the president wrote in a truth social post..

“the workers don’t want it either,” he added.

Anony Mous

I don't care if I have a 'specific' holiday, I would much rather move those 14 days to 'some other time'. Let the companies compete for my employment on the basis of total vacation time rather than mandating a schedule where both sides are forced. It would spread out holiday travel a lot better too, leading to all sorts of market optimizations and cost reductions.

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The letter I cannot write

by Anony Mous in

abusers like you don’t kill.

that would be too kind.. they ruin your childhood, they ruin your teenage years, instill lifelong fears.. they ruin your academic performance and the chance at higher education.

they hold you back in jobs, because you’re afraid, and hold you back in moving away, because they need you to validate them.. and then when we eventually break free, you follow, you interrupt, because we’re too afraid, you molest the ones we love because you feel you have the power.

Anony Mous

Abusers like you don’t kill. That would be too kind.

They ruin your childhood, they ruin your teenage years, instill lifelong fears.

They ruin your academic performance and the chance at higher education. They hold you back in jobs, because you’re afraid, and hold you back in moving away, because they need you to validate them.

And then when we eventually break free, you follow, you interrupt, because we’re too afraid, you molest the ones we love because you feel you have the power. So when they set you straight, and we move far away, you make unholy bonds, you continue following, like a shadow.

You make us believe things are normal, when they aren’t, you make us insensitive to emotion and pain. We cannot be normal, we cannot sleep, we look over our shoulders, to make sure you’re not there. We tell stories about our past, but never reveal, the horrors you brought.

You ruined our lives, and other people’s lives, and you try to ruin our children’s life, and we make them afraid of the boogeyman that you are, even though they never knew you.

And though I told you, a lifetime ago, you are not welcome anymore, that I have grown strong, when you feel threatened, when you are alone, you still feel the need, to let me know, you know where I am, that I owe you, make veiled threats only I understand, as if I care, about you, about your needs, about your meetings, about your god, about your dead.

The truth has been revealed, my past no longer a secret, you may come back, just this once, and I will return, neatly packaged in copper clad, the ruin you brought. And it will be fair, only the birds will know, because nobody cares, about you anymore.

And if you’re a coward now, and only fight boys, you will die slow, because no-one will be there, to pull the plug. Not the brothers, not the sisters, not the children, you never had. One prophecy is true, your corpse will rot, your acts forgotten, your family name, shall die with you.

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WAR begins.

by lastmanstanding in

things are moving right along.

“israel” has gone to war with iran.. who is fooled?.

this is uncle sam, same as in ukraine.. daniel layed out clearly the events of “d day” june 6, 1944 as the “ships of kittim” would sail against the king of the north.

Anony Mous

Crude oil futures are going up, but prices for products are still dropping. What is happening is that some investors are pumping up crude in the anticipation that other oil nations will get hit or join the war. Some are still expecting Trump to sit this one out, which he clarified this afternoon, the US will provide the necessary support to ending the theocratic rule if they don’t come to the table.

Some people believe Muslims in Saudi Arabia will somehow join against Israel, in reality they are quietly cheering the Israelis on. Nobody wants Iran to win this, not the Chinese, not the Russians, not the Saudis, not the Jordanians, not the Syrians, not even the Iranian people. Trump has already destroyed the ‘pain points’ in the area (the Houthis), a third world ragged group of pirates that were allowed by the previous administration to have an effect on long term strategic shipping lanes. The biggest loser here, besides the Iranian dictatorship, will be China, they are getting a ton of oil from Iran, they are one of the sole buyers, so they get to dictate bargain prices right now, however, if they end up nuking something (if they had the capacity) that would be the end of Iranian oil for the next few decades, if they lose the war, their oil will become a lot more expensive.

Right now, there is a high chance this is a protracted 2-3 week ‘war’ that will end in the overthrowing of Khomeini. However for that, Iranians have to rise up against their regime. There will be a civil war of some sort, but nobody is going to send a nuke to Israel, nobody is going to gang up against Israel, you read too much into the Bible if you think that it has anything to do with this, or the previous protracted skirmishes that Israel has had with Iran since its inception.

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Juneteenth being celebrated by JWs

by Anony Mous in

so today i saw a group of jws i know, we were sitting down to eat at a public place and i guess they (mom and daughter) were performing at an event with their sports team… for juneteenth.. they (the entire team) happened to sit next to us for some fast food and i recognized them and said hi, hoping to make them uncomfortable.

they actually said hi and introduced themselves to my family, i’ve seen them before (they go to the same school as one of my kids) and they usually ignore me.

i know for a fact they and their family still goes, the family patriarch is an elder etc.

Anony Mous

@BluesBrother: that was back in the day. Obama broke a lot of JW, as he was hyped up to be the savior of the black community.

I remember there being talks with not so subtle hints about not putting your trust in men or participating in elections regardless of how historic they may be at the conventions and meetings before the election.

But they let it slide, because drawing attention to disfellowshipping an Obama voter would be media suicide. And that just opened the floodgates, it gave permission for a whole host of political activity and obviously has permeated throughout the leadership, 12 years later they were actively promoting the COVID shot and whereas during various global issues (protests, wars) they usually came out with some article it very obviously references, they haven’t done that recently.

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Where is Tony?

by Athanasius in

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on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

Anony Mous

@george: the point I was trying to make is that according to public and other commercial records (you know credit companies and banks have an interest in those things), he lives in NC while she lives in MA. That may be a ruse by the WTBTS, but it only creates more questions. According to the records, she has a post box but does not share the address with Anthony in NC, whereas they did before in previous addresses.